New paramotor "Nirvana Instinct" – crash test
NEW PARAMOTOR ” NIRVANA INSTINCT ” – CRASH TESTS
February 15th, 2010
Airsports Parapanta
February 15th, 2010
Airsports Parapanta
New paramotor "Nirvana Instinct" – crash test
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Very strong and reliable engine,interesting film
Greetings
parap…I agree w/ you…MOST injuries in this sport are to knees, ankles, hands,etc from trying to launch heavy paramotors. The 200cc simo Flat Top ( most common FT ) is a HEAVY bulky paramotor & is 10lbs heavier than the 200cc simo Nirvana ( their websites will confirm this ). Dell also says his 200cc simo gets 13 more hp than Nirv’s SAME 200cc simo engine because of his loud pipe…LOL…Hes obviously never flown a Nirv..The Nirv puts out PLENTY of power enough that I have tandemed 500lbs..
para p….Dell is going to respond to you by saying his Flat Top is only 47lbs and the Nirvana is 55lbs. BUT he wont say that weight is for his small 120cc unit that is to small for most people. Most FT’s flown are his 200cc Simo which his own website lists as a heavy 65lbs ( i think its prob even heavier or at least feels heavier due to awkward design ).. Dell will say his 120cc 14hp motor is as strong as NIRVANAS 27hp Simo 200cc ( same motor as his best units use ) ..Dell is dillusional…
Have You ever flown with Nirvana?
Dell – is there any other paramotor as good in safety as Yours? (maybe similar?)
Yo wrote a lot of things about spine and it’s safety = tell me what about knees?!
Your paramotors are in a HEAVY weight – how many landings do You have with troubles? I think that most of them You did well, but think about knees!!!! WEIGHT!!!
Guys..and especially you Dell as a dealer / instructor of this sport should know better..Bashing peoples products, rehashing a specific DEATH / injury in the sport..TOTALLY BAD FOR THE SPORT. Dell you’re letting a couple of people out there who post a false garbage statement turn YOU into one of them. The PPG community knows when a crack pot poster is spewing BS. SAVE WHAT CREDIBILITY YOU HAVE LEFT & DONT TURN INTO THE CRACK POT WHOS BAD FOR THIS SPORT BY YOUR EVER INCREASING DUMB STATEMENTS…
The USA Nirvana importer died on a Nirvana paramotor. Yes a RedBull pilot was injured on a Flat Top after doing a death spiral wing tip drag through some brush that snagged his glider while he was totally sideways doing 50mph. Death from just touching a tree vs injury & recover from an insane maneuver? Yes one injury in the history of time after an insane maneuver where he would have likely died on anything else. Thanks for bringing that up. Nirvana’s are nice, just not the safest. Hello?
Yes your Crap Top is so safe that Chris Santacroce crashed and ended up in hospital with lots of broken body parts!! He should have been flying a NIRVANA PARAMOTOR and then he would have walked away no problem! You need to stop smoking that weed you see what it does to you? you start losing your mind, not that you had one to start with!
Why do you even go nuts arguing this stuff. Just put it on a scale and grab a Db meter. That’s how I know what I know. Why don’t you want to know the truth? What is wrong with you? You obviously don’t care even one little bit about reality. If being closed minded is your gig then that just fine. For other people though they really should know the facts. There are pictures and videos of the Flat Top on a scale and thrust tester. The Db test was done by my competitors. No reason to argue.
Hey man I still love you. It’s great you love Nirvana. That is fine for you. For anyone else that wants the truth though it is very simple. Just test them both. Put them both on a scale yourself and you will see who is right and who is not very educated on the subject. The really sad thing though is the injuries & death that happen from the lack of safety updates. There’s another guy liquidating his gear after beaking his back… get up to date paramotors, it just isn’t worth it.
Wow, your beyond help.You know before this experience debating w/ you I was just a guy in this sport who thought of you as a good pilot & actually thought of the FT as prob the 2nd or 3rd best paramotor out there. But now after listening to you spew bs lie after lie I now doubt many of your claims w/ your FT’s & flying supposed records. Every where i go people bash you..I assumed they were jealous or ?? but now I know they all have actually been right all along, your a dillusional lying nut case
@imasuper0308 Your own website says your FT 200cc Simo is 65lbs & we all knoiw it is actually heavier than that or at least feels even heavier than that due to its design……..The 200cc Simo Nirvana Rodeo is 55lbs ( FACT much lighter than your tank) you just lost another $10K….OUCH the truth & facts hurt dont they Dell……
You better get back on your med’s.. Your FT 200cc Simo is super loud….The Nirvana 200cc Simo Rodeo is way quieter…you just lost $10k……
Ok let’s make another wager, another $10,000 and we break out the Db meter and thrust tester and put them back to back. The truth is very easy to find. Just try it. Why are you so insanely nuts about this? That’s lovely that you like the Nirvana. That’s no problem. Will you still love it when you are missing fingers? Will you?
55 lbs? Ok tell ya what, lets make a $10,000 wager that the Nirvana is not 10 lbs lighter as you say. Are you in? Didn’t think so as you would lose. Your information is false. Anyone who wants to know the truth can just throw them both on a scale side by side and you will see who is lying and who isn’t. For all your bashing you should try putting them on the scale so you have a better idea what you are talking about. The Flat Top has a kevlar harness, 12oz batteries, carbon composit seat..
@imasuper0308 Are you blind this very video shows NIRVANA crash testing their paramotor over & over…Hmmmm no explosion dell, infact the Nirv stays together perfectly……are you lying again??…no way.. Dell telling a lie about the competitors product…SO YOU SAY 61lbs for the NIRV…Dell are you lying again?? Oh yeah i forgot when your typing or your lips are moving your lying….your own website lists your 200cc weight at apx 65lbs……The 200cc Nirv is listed correctly at 55lbs
@imasuper0308 Hmmmmm..is Dell lying again??? $11k really?? The superior Nirv Rodeo is $7,845 and the inferior product via FT that has maybe a tiny bit more power & is loud, heavy & bulky is $7,800…….same price….sorry Dell your dinky 120cc just doesnt cut it
Look at the muffler right where it comes out of the engine on the Nirvana. Where is the smooth curve and expansion chamber? That’s why it is so weak on power. Then they have the smaller prop, then they also have a non optimal reduction. This isn’t rocket science. It’s pretty obvious stuff. Kudos to Nirvana for working on their durability though which has been a huge problem for them. Too bad it is $11,000, the Flat Top is only $5700 WITH durability & safety INCLUDED. Hmm.
$5700 Flat Top 120
$7845 Nirvana Rodeo
The Nirvana puts out about 140-150 lbs of thrust on the perfect day and the Flat Top is about 120-130. The Nirvana weighs about 61 lbs and the Flat Top is 47.4. The Nirvana will explode when you trip and fall down, the Flat Top won’t. The Flat Top has hundreds of safety features the Nirvana has zero. The Flat Top has a 2 lb kevlar harness the Nirvana harness weighs about 6-8 lbs. That’s the reality which is why I’m leaning towards Flat Top.
Post a video of the 500 lb tandem on a Nirvana. I’ve posted that very thing of the Flat Top and it was on a 28sm glider AND at 4500 ft. The Nirvana has no expansion chamber, it has a smaller prop than the Flat Top, it has the non optimal reduction. It simply doesn’t put out anywhere near the thrust. If you don’t mind a bit less power or live down at sea level then just get a Flat Top 120. Save a huge chunk of weight with a more durable and safer setup. Try both back to back, you will see.
Eric you really don’t have to go nuts about this. I’m glad Nirvana is trying to make their units more durable. That’s excellent. Great work. Does anyone have any idea how to get service from Nirvana? Anyone? I need parts and have been waiting 10 months. Anyone? Anyone at all? The dealers don’t have them in stock and Nirvana only refered me to the dealers. Hello? Service on Nirvana anyone? This is the reality Eric. Shall I mail YOU the failed starter? Who is going to replace parts?
Yes the Nirv does come with a 1 year warrantee. That is ONLY through Nirvana though and neither of the US dealers stock all parts. They just don’t have the funding to do so. The FACT is that I am still waiting now 10 months on a failed Nirvana starter. 10 lbs? Wanna put some money on that? Didn’t think so. It is a lie. I sell both silly, the Nirvana is what it is. I just sold a Flat Top to a guy who train on Nirvana. He replaced the prop & cage TWICE on the Nirvana so he got a Flat Top.
@imasuper0308 FACT NIRV provides a 1 year warranty. FACT FT’s w/ similar power are at least 10lbs heavier….Ive got 200+ hours on my NIRV w/ zero problems. Ive got friends who have gotten parts quickly. Big reps are now in Fl & AZ so you can get most key parts faster than ever. Your dillusional…You sell the FT so thats why you falsely bash everything else. KEEP SPEWING THE LIES YOUR CREDIBILITY AS A TRUSTED DEALER DROPS DAILY……NIRV is now in the USA & Dell is nervous…
Want to see power? Just watch my video of 7 circles with the wing tip touching the whole way. Don’t even think about trying than on a Nirvana. Without an expansion chamber on a 2-Stroke you totally kill the power. It makes no sense to use a big heavy engine and kill the power. If you want less power then go with a smaller engine. Prop size is extreeeemly important though, that is one more reason why the Flat Top is soooo powerful, soooo quiet and soooo safe. Prop size is VERY important!!
Let’s thrust test them side by side. How much do you want to wager that the Nirvana can compare to Flat Top power? It can’t. The power on a Nirvana is very poor. More comparable to the Flat Top 120 which is far lighter, so quiet you can’t even hear the engine past 1/3rd throttle and way safer. Heavy? lie, Big? Yes bigger, prop size is everything, that’s why it is so much more powerful and with less noise as well as much safer, not comfy is just a lie man and you know it. Yes FACTORY pipe.
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